Talk:Logan O'Hoppe

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Review: February 1, 2024. (Reviewed version).

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A fact from Logan O'Hoppe appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 16 March 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that as a high schooler in 2018, Logan O'Hoppe caught a home-run ball at Yankee Stadium hit by visiting player Manny Machado and was televised throwing it back on the field?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/March. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Logan O'Hoppe.

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GA Review[edit]

Passed. Hog Farm _Talk 03:10, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Logan O'Hoppe/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Hog Farm (talk · contribs) 23:44, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this over the coming week. Hog Farm _Talk 23:44, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"He played travel baseball in his youth and did not have a hitting coach, instead training exclusively with his father." - the interview this is sourced talks about him training with the travel team people as well
- Fixed. Sewageboy (talk) 01:42, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"He was later awarded a high-school-level Gold Glove Award, recognizing him as the top high school catcher in the country" - I'm assuming this is primarily a defensive award like the main Gold Glove, right? In which case I'd recommend stating that - the current phrasing makes this sound like this is pointing him out as the best all-around catcher
- Fixed. Sewageboy (talk) 01:42, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"O'Hoppe made his professional debut in the Rookie-level Gulf Coast League (GCL) with the GCL Phillies. In his first game, O'Hoppe went 1-for-2 with a walk and a run" - the cited box score doesn't really support that this was his professional debut
- Added a game log for his 2018 season (first pro season) to corroborate this prose. Sewageboy (talk) 01:42, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"At the start of the 2019 season, O'Hoppe was promoted to the Low-A Williamsport Crosscutters of the New York–Penn League (NYPL)" - I'd add another b-ref citation after this sentence, as this material isn't support by the ASG box score
- Added additional source. Sewageboy (talk) 01:42, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Phillies farm director Josh Bonifay praised O'Hoppe's work at the site, saying that his bat-to-ball skills were top in the organization - Bonifay's quote about O'Hoppe in the article was He really made great improvements in his bat-to-ball skills. [...] He's physically matured and showed he can hit velocity. He's improved his swing decision and ability to impact the ball and his receiving continues to improve, all while showing he's a great teammate. The top bat-to-ball quote is referring to Rafael Marchan
- Altered prose to accurately fit the quote. Sewageboy (talk) 01:42, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
" going 4-for-21 (.196)" - 4 for 21 is not .196. B-ref rounds it to .191, MiLB rounds to .190
- Fixed error; used B-ref's figure to stay consistent with rest of article. Sewageboy (talk) 01:42, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"He spent the final six games of the season with Lehigh Valley," - I'd rephrase this. He played in six games for Lehigh Valley but based on the sources cited we can't assume that those were the last six games of the season - he could have played in six of seven, especially as a catcher
- Fixed -- changed "the final six games" to "his final six games". Sewageboy (talk) 01:42, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

More comments to follow later. Hog Farm _Talk 04:44, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

" In his first seven games with the team, he hit five home runs. " - not in the next citation (b-ref), I can't access the Athletic source to see if it is in there
- I added a 2022 game log that more specifically points to his five home runs in seven games. Sewageboy (talk) 01:42, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"and a 1.147 on-base plus slugging (OPS), the highest in his minor league career" - recommend adding something to indicate that this was as of that time; he technically had a higher one in '23 in two games with Salt Lake and that way people can't quibble over what small sample size is too small to count
- Changed prose to indicate it was his highest OPS in his time as a prospect. Sewageboy (talk) 01:42, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"During the Southern League postseason, he went 2-for-10 (.200) with an RBI in three games" - this is likewise not in the following b-ref source
- Added 2022 game log for this -- final three entries against the Smokies were postseason games. Sewageboy (talk) 01:42, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's it for the first read-through. Hog Farm _Talk 22:21, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hog Farm, the requested changes have been implemented. Let me know if there are any outstanding issues. Sewageboy (talk) 01:42, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by PrimalMustelid talk 18:26, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that as a high schooler in 2018, Logan O'Hoppe caught a home run ball at Yankee Stadium hit by visiting player Manny Machado and was televised throwing it back on the field? Source: https://www.mlb.com/news/logan-o-hoppe-throws-back-home-run-ball-as-fan-at-yankee-stadium
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Improved to Good Article status by Sewageboy (talk). Self-nominated at 06:05, 1 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Logan O'Hoppe; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

More of a comment than a review, but the hook is 199 characters. It's just below the acceptable limit, but given the length it might be a good idea to make it shorter/more concise if possible. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:52, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Regarding the hook, I'd suggest dropping "rival" since we don't claim that in the article; removing that and maybe the Orioles team name should make it concise enough. The hook is interesting (at least to me), and the article reached GA yesterday as of this comment and is well-cited and well-formatted overall. There are still a couple of things needed, from spot-checks of sources (in which I saw no paraphrasing concerns). The reference for the hook fact doesn't say anything about throwing balls back on the field being common practice, so that bit should be cited by something else or removed from the article. Ref 8 doesn't say he was the 677th pick, so we could use an additional cite there. Also, a QPQ review is still needed. Giants2008 (Talk) 01:27, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - I shortened the hook and added sources in the article where requested. Sewageboy (talk) 06:29, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    - My apologies for one thing above: a DYK review isn't required in your case, since it appears this is your first DYK nom. Should have looked at your user talk page earlier. The changes to the hook and the newly added sources look good to me. Giants2008 (Talk) 02:36, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]